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Topic: de-wormer
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newbie owner
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posted April 14, 2004 03:25 PM
I need to de-worm my horse. I have Quest Gel. He's a little hard to catch so we were wondering if we put it on his food would that be just as effective as squirting it into his mouth.
Posts: 28 | Registered: Feb 2004
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lil nicky
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posted April 14, 2004 03:54 PM
I heard to not let a horse eat anything for about 5 minutes after so i would say "No" don't put it into his feed...I'm not a 100% sure so.
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Posts: 191 | Registered: Feb 2004
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Blistering Winds
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posted April 14, 2004 04:28 PM
I've de-wormed with grain before. Not the best because many horses will starve themselves instead of eating wormer.
And the gel stuff, I wouldn't recommed doing feed because it is made to stick and go.
Just catch your horse, do what you want as far as riding, etc, then give him the dewormer before you put him up. Gel is excellent for those horses that liek to spit it back out. Get the tube WAY far back as you can up the cheek. THen, if you can, hold his nose still, and massage his throat latch to stimulate swallowing.
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Posts: 4337 | From: Texas | Registered: Oct 2003
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horse_crazy
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posted April 18, 2004 08:31 AM
Be VERY careful with Quest! With that stuff you have to get the weight amount, pretty close to the correct weight. We dont use Quest, we have all of our horses ona daily de-wormer, and only have to paste de-worm them twice a year. (except for the weanlings and yearlings, they are on daily de-wormer and then get paste de-wormed every 2 months or so) For the horses of ours that dont especially like the tube put in their mouth(we only have 1 or 2 of them out of 9 horses, thank goodness) we put it in their grain. NEVER give a horse de-wormer with hay! We have found that grain is okay, but never, never, never give it with hay or right after they have eaten hay.
Good luck!
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Honey-buckskin(in-foal to a smutty buckskin stallion)
BG-palomino/dunalino(foaled a beautiful filly)
Dibby-dun(in-foal to a palomino stallion)
Star Bucks-buttermilk buckskin(not bred, we may just use her as a riding horse)
Fillies:
Lizzy-grulla(will be used as a broodmare in the future, due to an injury as a weanling...we are unsure if she will be riding sound, although she might be, as her injury has healed so well...you can't even tell)
Sheba-black(hopefully will be shown in Halter classes starting this year)
Blue-blue roan(we aren't too sure what we are going to do with this filly yet....but she is a cutie)
Geldings:
Poco-sorrel/overo*Paint*(Awesome riding horse!)
Brandy-*FOR SALE*(Nice 2 yr old, going into training soon, price will go up, feel free to ask me about him..if you are interested)
Foals:
Tinker Bell- Red dun filly. Nice short neck, long legs, beautiful eyes..absolutely beautiful. Very people friendly.
Other 2 foals are expecting between May and June.
Posts: 853 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Jun 2003
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kimsmorgan
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Member # 1956
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posted May 11, 2004 01:37 PM
I have just read something about Quest having drug-related deths have any of you heard about this??? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posts: 8 | Registered: Mar 2004
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gingersnaps2002
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posted May 11, 2004 01:56 PM
I like and use Quest,havent heard anything bad about it,has never hurt any of mine,even though they get a tad bit more than they need.I like it because it absorbs fast,the horse cant spit it out and it kills a wide variety of worms AND it kills bots.And the worms dont develop a resistance to it,I think thats what I've read. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I also like Zimecterin or those cheaper off brands.I really dont like that safeguard,apple flavored stuff.My horses dont like that and after one time using that on sugar,she wouldnt eat an apple for months! ![[Hah]](graemlins/hah.gif)
Posts: 387 | From: arkansas | Registered: Jul 2003
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Blistering Winds
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Member # 843
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posted May 11, 2004 02:00 PM
drug related deaths? Don't know much about that. Are you talking about drug reaction to other drugs?
If you OD your horse on Quest, and it is actually easier than you think, you can kill a horse.
A horse who is VERY VERY wormy, after given quest, have a worm death overload. All die at once, and you get a clot in the heart, impaction in the gut, etc.
There are precautions many of us who use quest take as a "just in case". Like never de-worm a horse who you don't know their history with Quest. Only give the EXACT amount, maybe a bit less.
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Posts: 4337 | From: Texas | Registered: Oct 2003
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CJ
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Member # 1979
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posted May 11, 2004 03:18 PM
I heard that Quest was potentially dangerous to mini's. I don't have minis and don't use Quest, so I'm not totally sure if the danger was in General or if Overdosed. But yeah, it's got fineprint precautions..
Posts: 662 | From: NJ | Registered: Mar 2004
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ejforrest
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posted May 16, 2004 04:17 AM
A horse who has an overload of parasites can die at any time requardless of the dewormer used. When it is dewormed with any deworming product, the dead worms can cause colic and impaction colic due to the overload of dead worms it is trying to get out of its system. It is recommended to deworm every other month, 6 times a year to help reduce the overload of worms a horse can have.
Quest Gel is recommended for horses over 4 months of age and covers everything but roundworms,threadworms,lungworms,and tapeworms. Guest Plus covers tapeworms.
If you use a daily dewormerer such as Strongid C or Strongid C 2X, be aware that it is not effective against bots, so you should deworm once in the fall and once in the spring using a 1.87% ivermectin paste dewormer to control bot infestation.
As for your horse being hard to catch, you should start from the basics and teach him to come to you and then work on the deworming. Start out with taking a treat everytime you go near him. Do nothing but give him the treat when he does come up to you, then walk away. Keep doing this until he comes up to you and is comfortable, then start petting him and walk a way. Keep doing this and adding little things at a time.
Start carring your halter or lead rope with you on your shoulder and work form there a little at a time. Do this often, once a week or once a month isnt going to do a thing. Needs to be done everyday until you accomplish what you need too.
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Posts: 278 | From: michigan | Registered: Jan 2004
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