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Author Topic: OMG!!!! THIS CANT BE HAPPENING!!!! bay_blnd jmpr07 Member Member # 932 posted May 07, 2004 12:30 PM         well first, Fiona IS pregnant... but there is a bit of a problem... she has TWINS!!! i cant believe this!! its so scary!! the vet has to come Tuesday to find the smaller of the 2 and pinch it, so basically kill it. and if it doesnt work Fiona has to have an abortion!!! i never thought Fiona could have twins, and i dont want her to. when my mom told me she was pregnant i was all smiles, and then she told me there were 2. i started to cry. i dont want my girl in any harm and i dont want the foal in any harm. can u all pray that they are able to pinch the one(i kno it sounds bad, but it could end up killing both of them anf Fiona) and that Fiona is healthy and so is the other foal? i would really appreciate it. and if anyone has any tips about this or have experience could u help me maybe get over this? its a huge shock and i'm really scared. BBJ -------------------- Woody-RIP 4/7/04- You will always be missed. We love you Lil' Woody Man!!! "FEAR-Fake Evidence Appearing Real"--Lee Rouson It's not an obsession...It's a commitment!! "It's not in his feet...It's in his heart"--Red http://community.webshots.com/user/doublefc Posts: 1959 | From: Connecticut | Registered: Nov 2003 Rocking BT Ranch Member Member # 1840 posted May 07, 2004 12:34 PM         Be strong, hun !!! I have never had to make a decision like that and have no experience with it so I am useless in that respect, but I assure you prayers are coming yours and Fiona's way !!! Prayerfully ~ Teresa ~ -------------------- Happy Trails :) ~ Billy & Teresa ~ To view our photo albums of us, our children and our 4 legged kids click on the link. :) http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/rockingbtranch x-x-x-x If God brings ya to it, He will lead you through it x-x-x-x Posts: 188 | From: Arkansas-mving to Upstate NY | Registered: Mar 2004 bay_blnd jmpr07 Member Member # 932 posted May 07, 2004 12:38 PM         i've heard ppl tell stories of their horse having twins and u think awww, so cute and dont realize that there could have been probs. and then it happens to u and all these bad and scary thoughts cross ur mind. BBJ -------------------- Woody-RIP 4/7/04- You will always be missed. We love you Lil' Woody Man!!! "FEAR-Fake Evidence Appearing Real"--Lee Rouson It's not an obsession...It's a commitment!! "It's not in his feet...It's in his heart"--Red http://community.webshots.com/user/doublefc Posts: 1959 | From: Connecticut | Registered: Nov 2003 littlecelticpony Member Member # 1480 posted May 07, 2004 12:39 PM         oh, dear, of course i'll keep her in my prayers! -------------------- Xanga... Pictures... "I killed your cat! I thought that would bring closure to our relationship!" "I'll have a Coke, then." Do not underestimate your horse's pride, or he will dent yours. Posts: 1225 | Registered: Jan 2004 CJ Member Member # 1979 posted May 07, 2004 12:51 PM         Raps' breeder had a mare who cycled twins more than once, and would only niche with the Arab stallion. She actually delivered twins once, both were healthy but one was frail, and didn't survive. Take a deep breath, and try not to think of it as killing a foal- it's embryonic goo at this stage. The option of letting the mare carry twins to term include losing a foal, losing the twins, losing the mare, all of the above. The vet will surely do what is best for all concerned. My heart is with you. Posts: 662 | From: NJ | Registered: Mar 2004 arabianlvr87 Member Member # 1288 posted May 07, 2004 01:49 PM         Oh hun! Big hug and to both you and Fi! How worried you are! How old id Fiona? If she's young and healthy (Which Im sure she is) she may not have problems or complications. You poor things. Try to get some rest, it'll cool your mind. Fi is a strong mare. Im sure she and the foals will be just fine. Just imagine when they both come out beautiful and happy. -------------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/catandfelicity ---------- We are all of us stars and we all deserve to twinkle. --Marilyn Monroe ----------- Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising in every time we fall. -Confucious ----------- I AM an egotistical BRAT!! ----------- Treat you like my horse? HAH! Only in your wildest dreams! Posts: 970 | From: SC | Registered: Jan 2004 Carly Member Member # 2176 posted May 07, 2004 02:00 PM         hang in there! your all in my prayers (all 4 of ya!lol) that happend with my mini mare...she had the twins...(b/c she was on a free lease, and they never even told me they bred her! which was inthe contract that i must be told b4 she was bred, and that i could say otherwise...but i didnt even know until they phoned me up one morning all exited and said "can you believ it? its a miracle! she had twins!" i was What? who did?..when they told me it was sadie i was out the door to their place in a matter of minutes!) anyways... she had themboth...she was okay...and the babys were only about 20 mins old when i got there... this was an extremely rare case...but all 3 survived! i couldnt belive it when they both stood up and started eating!...anyways they are 3yrs old now!...and in their new homes...and so is sadie (not with them ofcourse)...anyways...your in my prayers and i hope all goes well! Carly -------------------- you gotta live, to love, and love to live. Treat you like i treat my horse? YEAH RIGHT!! I can muck 30 stalls b4 breakfast. what can YOU do? I have a really big ass, but i married him anyways! Driver carries no cash. all spent on horse Treat me like a TB and ill never nag who first squeezed cows utters, and decided to drink what coame out. and who said "hey, you see that chicken over there? ill eat the next thing that comes out of its bu.tt" "You don't think i got anything to teach you anymore? Thats fine with me. Just don't deny me the oppurtunity to watch you make an a.s.s of yourself" -Sully (Skipp Suddith)Third Watch "Sometimes i wonder what kind of world were leaving the kids. How the things we dont get involved in today, can come back. Maybe be their problem." - Faith Yokus (Molly Price) Third Watch Posts: 526 | From: Vancouver,BC,Canada | Registered: Apr 2004 horse_crazy Member Member # 334 posted May 07, 2004 02:27 PM         Im so sorry to hear that. Hopefully the pinching off will work. I know it may sound cruel to some people, but it is safer for the mare and foal. Twins are pretty rare, and raely all three horses(2 foals and dam) live. Not saying that they can't but usually at least 1 of the three horses dies. I sure hope everything goes okay, good thing that you caught this soon, otherwise it could have turned intoa HUGE problem.(If my memory serves my correct, Fiona was just recently bred) Best wishes! -------------------- Mares: Honey-buckskin(in-foal to a smutty buckskin stallion) BG-palomino/dunalino(foaled a beautiful filly) Dibby-dun(in-foal to a palomino stallion) Star Bucks-buttermilk buckskin(not bred, we may just use her as a riding horse) Fillies: Lizzy-grulla(will be used as a broodmare in the future, due to an injury as a weanling...we are unsure if she will be riding sound, although she might be, as her injury has healed so well...you can't even tell) Sheba-black(hopefully will be shown in Halter classes starting this year) Blue-blue roan(we aren't too sure what we are going to do with this filly yet....but she is a cutie) Geldings: Poco-sorrel/overo*Paint*(Awesome riding horse!) Brandy-*FOR SALE*(Nice 2 yr old, going into training soon, price will go up, feel free to ask me about him..if you are interested) Foals: Tinker Bell- Red dun filly. Nice short neck, long legs, beautiful eyes..absolutely beautiful. Very people friendly. Other 2 foals are expecting between May and June. Posts: 853 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Jun 2003 crazi4horses Member Member # 690 posted May 07, 2004 05:22 PM         aww hun! Im really sorry but everything will work out! I know it will. I'll definatyly be praying for Fiona and you!! She'll be alright! Dont worry (((((((((HUG)))))))))) -------------------- *Lil Bit~O~Honey* *Honey's finally home!* http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uid=1892570& ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Onyx~*1960~2003*~ *Onyx, you taught me almost everything i know about riding and im SO glad i did learn on you. I will always love you and miss you little girl! Posts: 2836 | From: New Hampshire | Registered: Sep 2003 Dancinglite Member Member # 1892 posted May 07, 2004 05:52 PM         Just for your information "pinching" a twin is statisticaly safe with rarely any problems. In the long run carring one healthy foal is the safest for both mare and foal. Posts: 165 | Registered: Mar 2004 Sandra-A1 Member Member # 588 posted May 07, 2004 06:03 PM         Be glad science has progressed to the point that the Vet is now able to detect that a mare has twins along with the knowledge and abilty to take care of the problem before the mare is endangered! Pinching off one embryo is common proceedure and terminating a mare's pregnancy simply involves a shot. Yes, you hear of mares having twins, but you hear of the success stories more often than the other! That is because a mare carrying to term and deliver twins is still rare and very risky! Trust your Vet and don't be too sad. I know I would not want any mare of mine to risk carrying twins and would have my Vet do what ever was necessary to end the risk. -------------------- "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -Dumbledore Posts: 1863 | From: Alabama | Registered: Aug 2003 HuNTSeAT123 Member Member # 1853 posted May 07, 2004 06:31 PM         hun, your in my prayers -------------------- John 3:16 -High hopes, prominent intentions, beatiful expectations- a great dream all shattered in the midst of a few words, a simple line. -Me Hi Volt++ http://community.webshots.com/user/huntseat123 Posts: 1053 | From: Novi(but moving to Highland), MI | Registered: Mar 2004 Twitch Member Member # 1616 posted May 07, 2004 06:52 PM         Well give your horsie a bug hug from me. And for you BE STRONG!!! I have to right now because we are putting one of my dogs to sleep tommorow. -------------------- Animals in Memory Georgie Porgie- You always made me feel better when I was sad. Fritz- I might not have paid so much attention to you after we got George but I love you and George got jealous. Kodi Bear- My fluffy little keshound, I love you with all my heart. Posts: 313 | From: Missouri | Registered: Feb 2004 bay_blnd jmpr07 Member Member # 932 posted May 07, 2004 06:52 PM         i'm not sad that one of the embryo has to be pinched, i'm just scared and shocked that i found out. i kno it is safer for there to be only one foal, thats why i freaked. i just want Fiona to have a successful foaling. today is (i think) the 20th day of pregnancy so we have 10 days to make sure the embryo is successfully pinched. it'll be done on tuesday and checked thursday (and if needed) pinched again. thank u for all of ur prayers. BBJ -------------------- Woody-RIP 4/7/04- You will always be missed. We love you Lil' Woody Man!!! "FEAR-Fake Evidence Appearing Real"--Lee Rouson It's not an obsession...It's a commitment!! "It's not in his feet...It's in his heart"--Red http://community.webshots.com/user/doublefc Posts: 1959 | From: Connecticut | Registered: Nov 2003 crazi4horses Member Member # 690 posted May 07, 2004 06:53 PM         only about 320 left to go!!! [ May 07, 2004, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: crazi4horses ] -------------------- *Lil Bit~O~Honey* *Honey's finally home!* http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uid=1892570& ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Onyx~*1960~2003*~ *Onyx, you taught me almost everything i know about riding and im SO glad i did learn on you. I will always love you and miss you little girl! Posts: 2836 | From: New Hampshire | Registered: Sep 2003 bay_blnd jmpr07 Member Member # 932 posted May 07, 2004 07:02 PM         i need to make a calendar thing counting down all the days LOL BBJ -------------------- Woody-RIP 4/7/04- You will always be missed. We love you Lil' Woody Man!!! "FEAR-Fake Evidence Appearing Real"--Lee Rouson It's not an obsession...It's a commitment!! "It's not in his feet...It's in his heart"--Red http://community.webshots.com/user/doublefc Posts: 1959 | From: Connecticut | Registered: Nov 2003 Cool Time 84 Member Member # 1036 posted May 07, 2004 07:20 PM         Do that, and keep us posted! lol -------------------- Cool Time-April 5,1984 Romper's Rock N Roll-May 31,1991 Squire's Last Sugar Babe-August 24,2002 El-C's Misdemeanor-May 15,1987 Yolla Bolly-May 1998 *~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Delta,Twos,Shad,Ally,Striker,Smokey,Bud,Eclipse,Zippo,Gypsy,Chance,Rouge and Rosa We will miss you forever! 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Posts: 1522 | From: Ohio | Registered: Nov 2003 hOrSeCrAzEeE120 Member Member # 771 posted May 07, 2004 07:22 PM         aw hun! everything is going to be ok!! we're all praying for her and you've got my prayer too! she'll be ok -------------------- * ashley * *.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.* RIP Scarlet, we love you and will never forget you, you touched so many people's lives. *.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.* Sarge.Rules.Sebastian <3 my boys for life, i love you all no matter what you all have a very special place in my heart! Posts: 1418 | From: PA | Registered: Sep 2003 MissBandit Member Member # 1377 posted May 07, 2004 11:43 PM         Wow, that is shocking. I'm sorry you've been so worried for your mare. I'm sure that everything will turn out ok. The twins were discovered very early on so there is plenty of time to get things all sorted out. It's a shame one has to go though. -------------------- You know you are a horse person when... ...You pull change from your pocket , and hay falls out. ...you yell at the kids, and the horse's name pops out. ...you actually get to a point where flies don't bother you so much. Posts: 2292 | From: BC, Canada | Registered: Jan 2004 shell Member Member # 1582 posted May 08, 2004 07:29 AM         It is sad to think of one of the embryos being pinched, but it will allow the other one to grow normaly and more healthy. With 2 they don't develope as well. I know it is hard, but it is better in the long run to have 1 healthy foal than 2 sick ones or worse! -------------------- Unicorn Sisters, a fun fantasy adventure story with lots of horses!!! (The sequel due out next year!) Available at Amazon.com and Author House publishing. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/ref=s_sf_b_as/103-1974227-3315015 http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=22209 or call toll free: 888-280-7715. Posts: 556 | From: New Hampshire | Registered: Feb 2004 bay_blnd jmpr07 Member Member # 932 posted May 08, 2004 04:11 PM         i dont care if they even have to pinch both of them. as long as Fiona is fine. normally i am against abortion(this is sorta like it) but when it dangers the mare(or person) i kno it needs to be done and i want it done. 1 out of like 10,000 times do the 3 make it. and i aint takin that chance...ever. so i am NOT sad that the embryo is being pinched. i'm only sad cuz i'm scared. BBJ -------------------- Woody-RIP 4/7/04- You will always be missed. We love you Lil' Woody Man!!! "FEAR-Fake Evidence Appearing Real"--Lee Rouson It's not an obsession...It's a commitment!! "It's not in his feet...It's in his heart"--Red http://community.webshots.com/user/doublefc Posts: 1959 | From: Connecticut | Registered: Nov 2003 SyntheticTrust Member Member # 2281 posted May 08, 2004 04:13 PM         **** that really sucks.. my mare is sooo fat i think she might have twins Posts: 238 | From: Carriere, Mississippi | Registered: Apr 2004 hossluva Member Member # 2266 posted May 08, 2004 06:39 PM         i'll pray for u all and trust me twins they may be cute but not good. heres my story:at the old barn were i used to take lesons at there was this mare, a black arab named asala,every kid always wanted to ride her cuz she was the perfect lesson horse.well one day the woman who ran the barn,bonnie, dicided to let her take a little break so she bred her to her arab stallion,khaberjai aka khab (cab) very high strung beautiful deep bay that she used to do endurance racing with, anyway so she bred asala and time went by and she had twins but both were stillborn they were identical all black with a tiny white star right smack dab in the middle of there head they looked exactly like there mom. so for the next few day asala was depresed then if the whole barn wasnt sad enough (we were all hoping for another baby asala, asala being the perfect mare as she was) she began to FOUNDER!!!!really really bad so then (well bonnies husband is a farriar so she was lucky there!)and she couldnt walk and it came to the point were she was 100% not gonna make it! well one day a lil tiny kid about 3-4 years old went into the barn the day we had called the vet to put her down. he looks into the stall and goes "here horsey come eat a carrot" and held out the carrot we were all standing there and his mom starts to explain that the horse is sick when she gets up and hobbles over to him and eats it. and she survived! and still today she hulls kids around for hours everyday! and that was 4 years ago. and last yr. she was bred again so maybe this time we will be a lil luckier! good luck im sure everything will go fine and i will pray for ya'll!-mere- -------------------- PIX FINNALY!!! www.picturetrail.com/notanothercowgurl ~*MADDIE*~bay 9yr. old tb/warmblood cross Posts: 241 | From: ohio | Registered: Apr 2004 Dawn Member Member # 14 posted May 08, 2004 06:43 PM         A horse foundered so bad that it was going to die, and eating a carrot saved it to the extent that it is now a lesson horse and being bred again? -------------------- Heard in the midst of a handwriting exam ~ "And to think, we could've been bio-chem majors." Posts: 6885 | From: Tennessee | Registered: Nov 2002 Kat Member Member # 538 posted May 08, 2004 09:27 PM         AWW I am so sorry about that. Atleast getting rid of one now is better than it being born dead, or born alive then dying. (Not that killing a embryo is a good thing) You are saving yourself from sadness later. Although the foals could have lived if you didnt pinch one, its better safe than sorry. My thoughts are with you! -------------------- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kisses from Kat Slobbers from Mac <\___~ ..//...\\.. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Posts: 788 | From: ID | Registered: Aug 2003

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