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tbluver
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posted April 02, 2004 09:18 AM
O.K. my mare has developed a minor case of arthrits so I have decided to breed her this year, so I can have a baby out of her before it gets worse. Anyways beside the point...lol..
The stud I am interested in is my mom's friend's horse, he breeds paints and qh. I am breeding my tb mare to the qh. he is blood bay, 17.2 hh, and my mare is 16.2 hh, chestnut. The stud has an extremely minor roman nose. Can barely tell. But my mare has a really really long head, i mean seriously. She has Damascus in her blood that's why..lol.
So would the baby have a chance of having a long head. The stallion has a small head, and through all his foals he's produced none of then inherited the roman nose. So would the baby have a long head, since the father has a smaller one??
Thanks Sorry some of it is kinda blabbing on...lol
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Expressa
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posted April 02, 2004 01:28 PM
I'm really not sure if the foal will have a long head or not. I think it might be one of those wait and see kind of situations but again I'm not sure.
I did want to reply though b/c although its not what you posted about thats awesome that your horse goes back to Damascus. I have an appendix QH mare that we are selling as a broodmare that is 3/4 thoroughbred and goes back to Raise Your Glass/Raise A Native and Tom Fool. I love all those old thoroughbred champs!!!!
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Sandra-A1
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posted April 02, 2004 03:08 PM
Our Pinto mare has a head when viewed from the side I think is quite straight and unattractive. When we breed her we are careful to breed her to stallions with lovely refined heads with really big eyes and short shapely ears.
We check out as many of the mares that were bred to the stallion we are considering, looking for mares that possibly have a head that looks similar to what our mare has. If the foals heads have enough refinement to make the heads attractive I do not worry about the size of them as long as they fit the body!
I would want to see the heads of the mares that were bred to this stallion first! It could be that the mares were the ones that improved the heads of this stallions get.
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Super_Trooper
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posted April 02, 2004 03:58 PM
awww, no horses have ugly heads!!! Lol
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posted April 02, 2004 04:21 PM
I'm in major agreement with Super_Trooper.
Haha, once in a while, though, some people... tend to get bored of what they look at all the time and it gets ugly to them.
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SamsonsAcres
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posted April 02, 2004 05:22 PM
Does this stallion have foals on the ground? If so ask for photos of his offspring and see if he tends to throw a certain head type on a foal, take that in consideration. Does your mare have foals on the ground? If so, take in consideration what type of head she throws to her offspring.
Also, as a breeder I breed to perfect the breed I am breeding. I will not breed ANY horse that does not fit my standards I must have the total package before I will breed -- conformation and disposition are number one. Then I move on to -- bloodlines, color, show records, etc.
Breed a horse with an "ugly head" and expect an ugly head (though you could get a gorgeous head you didn't expect, always expect the worse). Breed for what you want in a horse, do not breed because it's what convenient and don't breed for sentimental reasons only. If this stallion or your mare is not what you desire simply do not breed them. Possibly find a more proven stallion who throws more of what you are looking for.
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probarrelracer
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posted April 02, 2004 08:22 PM
Roman nose is a strong genetic trait, and is passed down very often. If you are breeding for an appendix foal, be careful. If a foal has a strong roman nose, AQHA may not register it. It is considered a serious inherited conformation fault.
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tbluver
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posted April 02, 2004 08:57 PM
O.k I decided today that I don't want to take any chances of breeding a not so attractive foal into this world with defaults like an unproportional head....so I decided i am having this guys semen sent to me...
The stud fee is $1100, and booking is $400!! but my friend bred her mare to him 2 years ago, and she had an awsome baby, and I saw the video she had of him, and I almost fainted when i saw his movement...what does everybody think??
i am gonna call them in the morning:-)
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HuNTSeAT123
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posted April 04, 2004 11:34 AM
ohh hes pretty
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Cool Time 84
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posted April 05, 2004 06:55 PM
Not really my type, wouldn't be what I would look for in a stud, but that's me.... I like daintier heads, and shorter backs, and his coloring ain't the best in the world, but he moves okay.
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littlecelticpony
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posted April 05, 2004 08:10 PM
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and his coloring ain't the best in the world
lmao! that is so...stupid. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
sorry, that was a good laugh for me, i dont know about anyone else.
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hay burner
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posted April 05, 2004 08:18 PM
I like that stud and his coloring is beautiful i think get that semen ASAp if he threw a good foal oce he can do it again oh and what color was the foal? I didnt think it was nice to say that but eh every one has a different opinion right
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Cool Time 84
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posted April 05, 2004 08:19 PM
What??? I merely stated what I thought! To me his coloring AIN'T the best! So what if you don't think so.... I gave my GOD'S HONEST OPINION! WHICH I AM ENTITLED TO!
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R.I.P. RIGGS, I love and miss you, I will NEVER forget you. May you walk beside God in all his glory for all eternity! Love "Yes Ma'am Marine"
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littlecelticpony
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posted April 05, 2004 08:22 PM
lmao again! so it's just opinion too, which I'm entitled to, as well.
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space_cowboy
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posted April 05, 2004 08:44 PM
I thought that you thought your mare was already pregnant?? Did I miss something??? lol!
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zorse
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posted April 05, 2004 08:57 PM
Just a quick Q...the first stud you were gonna breed her to...is a 17.2h QH? Never heard of one that big before....
What is this gray stud you're looking at? Breed, etc? He looks nice from the pics...cute jumper even though he's meant to be dressage...that's always a plus...expensive fee depending what he's done though.
What are you going to do with the foal? Yeesh..buy one of ours the foals seem to mulitply for some reason...
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tbluver
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posted April 05, 2004 09:00 PM
haha i know ...lol..i put this post up before i really thought she was preggy...the vet is coming out tommorow to do a palpation on her...I will know tommorow everyone...but after the foal is born (which if there is one, lol) then i will breed her on foal heat, well I have already sent for the semen and it will be here soon at my vet's! The foals he has thrown are usually grey, there has also been a jet black, blue roan, chestnut, and a roase grey...the rose grey was my friend's and the movement is TO DIE FOR...as for the statement of his color, i could care less...are you breeding to him...lol...I admit he isn't the most beautiful grey, but he is gorgeous to me, and his babies are on FIRE...!!!LOL
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zorse
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posted April 05, 2004 09:03 PM
what breed is he
his color's not bad..he's probebly just old so he's lost his dapples..no biggie
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tbluver
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posted April 05, 2004 09:22 PM
he's an oldenburg...or hanoverian..lol...who knows, i'll have to look it up again...i always get those warmbloods mixed up!!lol...He is 17 so yeah..
Nikki
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tbluver
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posted April 05, 2004 09:23 PM
oldneburg...lol..I had to think about it, cause i was deciding between him and a hanovarian!!lol
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zorse
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posted April 05, 2004 09:28 PM
Ahh..cool ![[Smile]](smile.gif) What's his name? Dose she have a website?
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Cool Time 84
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posted April 06, 2004 03:44 AM
you know what guys? I don't really know whyI even bother with this site anymore... I can't say a frickin thing without everyone making me out to be the bad guy... but who the frick cares anymore... if you people aren't mature enough to deal with what I have to say I won't bother with any of you anymore.
and just so you know.... I was giving MY opinion of the horse, I didn't ask for anyones opinion about ME...
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Romper's Rock N Roll-May 31,1991
Squire's Last Sugar Babe-August 24,2002
El-C's Misdemeanor-May 15,1987
Yolla Bolly-May 1998
*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Delta,Twos,Shad,Ally,Striker,Smokey,Bud,Eclipse,Zippo,Gypsy,Chance,Rouge and Rosa We will miss you forever!
My dearest Jesse, We were together 11 years this winter, you were my special friend, I hated to see you go my dear, but I know it's best in the end. I will never forget you my faithful friend!
Jesse was laid to rest on: 03/18/04
***James C Reaggle III***
Born: Jan 21,1987
Died: March 24, 2004
Laid to Rest: March 27, 2004
R.I.P. RIGGS, I love and miss you, I will NEVER forget you. May you walk beside God in all his glory for all eternity! Love "Yes Ma'am Marine"
May all of you Rest In Peace!
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posted April 06, 2004 05:51 AM
Cooltime,
Everyone in this world will have arguements. You stated your opinion and I thought that it was fairly accurate. I like his movement. Not everything you say is wrong. People on this form know what they are talking about when it comes to horses. People can have bad days. If you think that someone might come and jump on you for what you said than dont post it. Everyone has arguements and some will agree and some will disagree. It doesnt make anyone a bad person. Both of you were entitled to give an opinion, but none of you were entitled to call ones opinions stupid. That is just the way I see it and I am sure that someone will disagree with me.
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Cool Time 84
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posted April 06, 2004 06:27 AM
Thanks Jesse,I really appreciate the defense, because I did clearly state that it was my OPINION! I breed horses, and I show and train, his coloring is not something I desire in my horses, and I like grays.... his color is poor, but his movement is good... his head could be daintier and his back shorter, but his overall conformation is fine... I just really got turned off by his color... but that's not saying anything bad about the horse, his color and be UGLY and he can still be a good horse!
Steph
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Romper's Rock N Roll-May 31,1991
Squire's Last Sugar Babe-August 24,2002
El-C's Misdemeanor-May 15,1987
Yolla Bolly-May 1998
*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Delta,Twos,Shad,Ally,Striker,Smokey,Bud,Eclipse,Zippo,Gypsy,Chance,Rouge and Rosa We will miss you forever!
My dearest Jesse, We were together 11 years this winter, you were my special friend, I hated to see you go my dear, but I know it's best in the end. I will never forget you my faithful friend!
Jesse was laid to rest on: 03/18/04
***James C Reaggle III***
Born: Jan 21,1987
Died: March 24, 2004
Laid to Rest: March 27, 2004
R.I.P. RIGGS, I love and miss you, I will NEVER forget you. May you walk beside God in all his glory for all eternity! Love "Yes Ma'am Marine"
May all of you Rest In Peace!
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posted April 06, 2004 01:03 PM
Okay, I'm just going to ask a question.
When you found out that April had arthritis, you stated that you could not afford to keep her and another horse for showing. But yet now, you can afford to go through with this foal, raise it, breed her, and raise another? That just does not make sense? Am I missing something?
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