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OwnerofWillow
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posted March 27, 2004 09:43 PM
Next year I have been considering breeding my mare. If I can not find a filly that I like before next breeding season. These are some of the studs I have been looking at.. Tell me what you think.
This one is a nice all aroundBirchfield Quarter horses
This is the one I have been leaning towardsJ & J Paints and Quarter Horses
This one looks alot like my horses DaddyTriple Bar Ranch
This guy has fabulouse pedigree but his head looks to big
Acme Acres
This one has fabulous breeding too but looks very thoroughbred to me
M & M Quarter Horses
What do you think? If you like any AQHA Stallions let me know!
oh her sire is Tru Tru Deck
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Dawn
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posted March 27, 2004 09:45 PM
Isn't your mare only 2 years old?
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OwnerofWillow
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posted March 27, 2004 09:50 PM
Which is why I said next year .. And I said thinking about..
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Dawn
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posted March 27, 2004 09:51 PM
Oh, just checking. I didn't figure you were going to breed a 3 year old, but then again, I don't know where she would be in her 3rd year either. You've posted so many types of stallions. It seems that your only requirement is that you want an AQHA. Are there any certain characteristics you're looking for? What do you want to do with the foal?
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OwnerofWillow
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posted March 27, 2004 10:01 PM
Well I would like it for Showing but would like it to be versatile enough for me to do most anything with ![[Smile]](smile.gif) I am not much on jumping though. I like big rumps on my horses as you can tell by the pictures of the stallions. Though I would also like to be able to do trail or gaming as well. I pretty much like alot of stuff. My aunt had a barrel horse that would also show, trail, and my 3 year old cousin could ride it. I guess I want one versatile like that
Whether I breed or not would have alot of variables. ATM she is a hair under 16hh at 2
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Dawn
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posted March 27, 2004 10:02 PM
What kind of showing? I mean everything but jumping still leaves a whole lot.
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OwnerofWillow
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posted March 27, 2004 10:04 PM
Western and English mostly. She is a pretty good mover in the fields. Though Dressage looks fun I doubt I could remember the patterns. I have done halter before but dont like feeding up my horses to where they look unnaturally muscled.
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Dawn
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posted March 27, 2004 10:08 PM
So...what kind of English and Western? WP? English Pleasure? HUS? HOF? Saddleseat? Hunter Eq? I'm sure I'm still leaving a lot out. Granted you can't look at two horses and tell what you're going to get. There are horses that you can look at and say that's not a good choice for whatever discipline.
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OwnerofWillow
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posted March 27, 2004 10:14 PM
oops sorry didnt think about defining it more, English and Western Pleasure. I grew up around Cow horses (that is what my aunt called them) Horses that were bred and raised for cattle work. So I lean towards that look more so than the thoroughbred look of WP nowadays.
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Dawn
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posted March 27, 2004 10:20 PM
I don't really like any of these for wp or ep. There aren't any action or under saddle pics of any of these horses. So it's impossible to evaluate how they move. The last could be alright, but those pics are horrible.
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posted March 28, 2004 04:46 AM
I am not an expert on quarter horses but the one from Triple Bar Ranch looks the nicest but it has Impressive in the dam's line and to me that would be a big no-no.
I have to agree with Dawn and you need to see a video or at least some action shots.
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posted March 28, 2004 06:15 AM
Well, I don't like any of these horses one bit, except for the Dash For Cash son. Dash for Cash and Triple Chick are 2 of my favorites, so maybe I'm partial. But I also like the TB look more anyway.
The other studs look pretty *ick* to me. Ewe necks, weak backs, steeply sloped croupes, crooked legs, poor balance, etc.
But - I guess that's my opion. The only one I would personally consider would be the Dash for Cash son.
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posted March 28, 2004 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by Jumpers:
Well, I don't like any of these horses one bit, except for the Dash For Cash son. Dash for Cash and Triple Chick are 2 of my favorites, so maybe I'm partial. But I also like the TB look more anyway.
I like this one as well only because I have researched these bloodlines. My new Paint stud colt is related to him! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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posted March 28, 2004 07:49 AM
Personally, I liked Sonny's Twisted Bar, from Acme Acres. He is the one that most appealed to me....as far as looks. His pedigree is okay, not alot of what I usually look for, although he does go back to Leo. Boston Mac is on his pedigree, which isn't too bad. The stallion that you were leaning towards isnt too bad either. Not exactly what Id look for but...hes looks nice. His pedigree has some Champion___(what ever they were champion at)____ on his papers, and there are some points back there.
Its really up to you, you choose the best stallion that compliments your mare the most. Just look at it as...you know what kind of disposition your mare has, find a stallion that has a nice disposition. Pedigree wise, if your mare doesnt have the best of pedigrees look for a stallion that has a really good one. And so on, make the breeding compliment each other. Good luck!
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horse_crazy
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posted March 28, 2004 07:56 AM
Whoa, i didnt even see his(Sonny's Twisted Bar) Foundation percentage! He isnt terribly high...83%, but is your mare eligable for Foundation? If your mare is high enough, you could get a foal that is Foundation registered or even Appendix Foundation(again, that is only if your mare has a high Foundation percentage).
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Mares:
Honey-buckskin(in-foal to a smutty buckskin stallion)
BG-palomino/dunalino(foaled a beautiful filly)
Dibby-dun(in-foal to a palomino stallion)
Star Bucks-buttermilk buckskin(not bred, we may just use her as a riding horse)
Fillies:
Lizzy-grulla(will be used as a broodmare in the future, due to an injury as a weanling...we are unsure if she will be riding sound, although she might be, as her injury has healed so well...you can't even tell)
Sheba-black(hopefully will be shown in Halter classes starting this year)
Blue-blue roan(we aren't too sure what we are going to do with this filly yet....but she is a cutie)
Geldings:
Poco-sorrel/overo*Paint*(Awesome riding horse!)
Brandy-*FOR SALE*(Nice 2 yr old, going into training soon, price will go up, feel free to ask me about him..if you are interested)
Foals:
Tinker Bell- Red dun filly. Nice short neck, long legs, beautiful eyes..absolutely beautiful. Very people friendly.
Other 2 foals are expecting between May and June.
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horse_nut83
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posted March 28, 2004 08:14 AM
I think if you want to show in pleasure you need to breed to a pleasure breed horse.WHy would you breed to a Dash for Cash son when you want to show pleasure? Find a stallion out of Zippo Pine Bar or something. Breed to Zips Chocolate Chip or Chips Maverick. THose are amazing sires. I have seen Chips Maverick and he has got it going on.
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horse_nut83
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posted March 28, 2004 08:21 AM
These are a couple of my favorites.
http://www.cosentinoqh.com/
http://www.macsgoodnplenty.com/
Breed to this one and we can have a baby that is related. ![[Applaud]](graemlins/applaud.gif)
http://www.hatchsqh.com/
Take a look at all the oppertunites you have.
http://www.pleasurehorse.com/
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posted March 28, 2004 09:58 AM
Hi OwnerofWillow, I just joined a day or so ago and have been trying to keep an eye on the posts (its a busy time of yr for us, <smile>). It is a tough decision to make when considering a stallion...there are so many to choose from. Just because a horse looks good in a picture doesn't mean his foals will look good. Get pics. of his foals and email or call people who own the foals to find out first hand what the temperment is like. Temperment is of the utmost importance when considering any stallion...this is just my opinion but to me it doesn't matter what kinda show record or bloodlines a stallion has...if he doesn't have a gentle disposition, don't breed to him. You will be the one who has to deal with the foal and the foals temperment. I have a few stallions, but won't be doing AI until next yr., so am not trying to sell anything here <smile>,(you are in AZ and I am in WI and thats a little to far...LOL!), I am just trying to help a little if I can. To me (again this is just my opinion), a mare owner really needs to look at their mare, does she lack in a specific area?...if so then the next thing I would look for in a stallion(after temperment), would be... does he have the qualities she doesn't and does he pass these qualities on to his foals? For example, Secretariat...he was a living wonder, but he could not pass that on, but to only a very few of his offspring and then it was from the female side (by the way I absolutely adore Secretariat so I am not slamming him, I actually have a Secretariat Granddaughter, from the female side), so look for a stallion that can put his good qualities into his offspring. <smile> Bloodlines are very important if the stallion can pass it on...so basically what I am saying is...check out his offspring and contact people who own the stallions offspring. An example...one of my stallions (Playboy) was bred to my mare Kit, she hasn't had the foal yet, we are expecting any day, but if the foal is a colt it is already sold. Playboy passes his disposition onto his offspring among other qualities. Kit's sire also passes that on to his offspring and so on etc... Well, I hope some of this helps, I could go on and on if you want more info or have questions about what I am trying to say feel free to ask, I have to go get some breeding done...<smile> Just my 2 cents *Grin*
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OwnerofWillow
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posted March 28, 2004 11:17 AM
Thank you very much for all of the imput. I did not look at any WP bred horses because I do not like how they look. I was raised in a household that had horses ment for ranch work and rodeos so like horses that have a bit more bulk on them. Though I do not like the halter type bulk. Showing isnt the only thing that I want to do. As I said I would like to have a horse that is versatile.
Some of the stallions have pictures of their foals on the sites.
Here are pictures of my horse taken when she was 1 and well fat ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) She has been pasture raised so isnt toned up or anything. Though she looks a bit bulkier now and is a good deal taller this is pretty much what she looks like her rear is a tad bit smaller than I would like. Yes she is QH though her dad has alot of TB further backin his line (her great x8 grandfather is Man o War I find that fun doesnt do anything for her breeding now but still fun)
www.members.cox.net/willowbay/willow
www.members.cox.net/willowbay/willow1
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posted March 28, 2004 11:52 AM
OwnerofWillow...What is her heritage, first 4 generations?
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OwnerofWillow
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posted March 28, 2004 12:00 PM
Her pedigree you mean? it is on the link when I first posted of her dad that has the first 4 generations I believe. I dont have her moms Pedigree yet...
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posted April 01, 2004 07:05 PM
I'd stick to the Dash For Cash bred colt, but only if these are the only horses you are considering. I do not like any of these in particular. None have very good papers (which is about all we have to go by here). All of the Dash For Cash horses that I have ridden (there have been many of them) were very intelligent and have done well in just about any discipline. I have trained most for barrels, but almost all of them had a little cow in them and very sane minds. If you are wanting to show English and Western, I'd stay away from the foundation breds because they are a little less flexible and athletic. I know of some very good stallions (especially barrel horses) when you are ready. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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