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Topic: Mare that doesn't like certian areas groomed
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buggywhipp
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posted May 03, 2004 02:04 PM
Hi, I have a Tb mare who I have owned for a month now. I am having a problem with her when it comes to grooming. She is great about having her head,neck,front legs,shoulders groomed. She also doesn't mind her tail being groomed either. Also she seems to enjoy the clippers. I can clip her anywhere (even her ears and she just stands there and seems to enjoy it also) except her back legs. But the problem is once I pass her shoulder and move to her back,sides,belly,and back legs she has a fit. She will try to bite or kick. I have tried several different brushes from soft to stiff as well as different types of currys. She doesn't even like for someone to put their hand in these areas. Is there anything I can do to get her to accept being groomed in these areas? Any ideas or advice would be greatly appericated. Thanks in advance.
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AQHA1972
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posted May 03, 2004 02:10 PM
She may be sore.
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cerberus
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posted May 03, 2004 04:53 PM
I'm curios about this too. I have a tb gelding and when I groom his belly and sides he lifts his back leg, not to kick, he just holds it up. I'm assuming he is just ticklish. Could there be another reason? ![[Red Horse]](graemlins/redhorse.gif)
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arasemt
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posted May 03, 2004 04:56 PM
My TB is ticklish on her belly too. She pins her ears when I brush her there but that's as far as it goes. ![[Cool]](cool.gif) I think TBs are more sensitive than many other breeds so perhaps she is just ticklish? I don't know what you would do about it though!
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EqUeStRiAn
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posted May 03, 2004 05:24 PM
my arab does that too when i pick up his feet.... he snapps them up , and i think hes super ticklish lol
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Catapultcomformation
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posted May 03, 2004 05:58 PM
some horses are very ticklish around their flanks or bellies te best thing is to just pet him there when he is relaxed and just make sure he knows when you are there just get him used to that and progress slowly
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buggywhipp
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posted May 03, 2004 06:21 PM
I have tried petting her on the belly and sides but she still bites,cow-kicks at me,or will kick up underneath her. I will give her a very firm and loud no and a yank on her lead. When I do scold her for being bad she acts as if she knows she is being bad. I don't think she is sore. She has no visible signs of being sore. And she doesn't dip down and try to avoid being brushed on her back. I thought maybe it is a trust issue with her being I have owned her for a short time and maybe with time she will come to accept it. But I just can't understand why she is a witch when I groom those areas and when I clip her she really seems to enjoy it. I would think it would be totally reverse. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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MiniHorseGrl
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posted May 03, 2004 06:45 PM
hmm..could it have anything to do with bad experienceswith past owners??
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buggywhipp
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posted May 03, 2004 06:56 PM
I have wondered the same thing but I am sure if I was to ask I would never get the actual truth. I was told she loved being groomed and was really good about it. Well she is good about having the front half of her groomed. I have even tried using a grooming block. And although she will cow-kick at you when you try to groom her back legs she is ok about cleaning out her back feet or getting them trimmed. She is a ex-racer but that was many a years ago as she is now 14 yrs. She raced when she was younger but was retired due to an injury. I don't know if that is an issue or not. I was told she had a pretty rough life when she was being raced and was run into the ground which eventually caused one of her ankles to blow up. But who really knows.
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MiniHorseGrl
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posted May 03, 2004 06:58 PM
aww, maybe you can find some technique, or try treating her as if that was the problem? i dont know how you could teach her its ok though...my sister's paint didnt like his back or anything touched at all, i cant remember how she taught him it was ok..does she let you ride, and put blankets and stuff on her?
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Posts: 381 | From: Lockport,NY | Registered: Apr 2004
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buggywhipp
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posted May 03, 2004 07:17 PM
She is only pasture sound only. I bought her for a broodmare. But she is really sweet. She lets me clip her even her ears. She just stands there and really enjoys it. I can spray her,bathe her,pull her mane,groom her tail,blanket,fly mask,or anything like that. When I first got her,when she would be in her stall eating and I would walk in she would pin her ears back at me. Now I can walk in her stall when she is eating and walk up and pet her and she is fine. So I am wondering if this grooming issue is just trust related and something we can overcome.
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MiniHorseGrl
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posted May 03, 2004 07:28 PM
yeah, that could b it. Prince was in a pasture till he was two, so when my sis bought him, we couldnt even touch him, then, once she taught him to trust, he loves bin groomed, it just took longer to get him to allow us to touch his back and stomach, so maybe its a natural weak spot, that she feels she needs to defend? if that is the case, i would think gaining her trust would probably help hehe
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Posts: 381 | From: Lockport,NY | Registered: Apr 2004
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Grandsgirl2003
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posted May 03, 2004 10:48 PM
My gelding has it like that. when i brush him in the flank/belly part near his (YOU KNOW WHAT) he gets very mean. he'll kite, bite and pull his head with his ears back. hes in no pain. Also when i put the girth on, he goes WILD!!
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Super_Trooper
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posted May 04, 2004 10:48 AM
GG if you are using a soft brush and your horse is biting and kicking at you that is not right...dangerous!
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Dawn
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posted May 04, 2004 10:52 AM
Brushing a TB
This is probably the same issue that we visited in this post. People know that tb's have thin, sensitive skin. That leads them to believe that they're in pain when they misbehave during grooming. In fact, it is usually them being ticklish. Either way, dangerous behaviour is never acceptable.
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bdrpcrdg
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posted May 04, 2004 11:46 AM
Some ex-race horses, along with show horses become very sensitive in those areas due to roughness during grooming. They are rushed through the grooming process being prepared for the event, which in turn can cause sensitivity. Especially those that are thin skinned. Try starting with a soft towel, rub those areas gently, preferrably tie it to the end of a stick or pole, so it's long enough you won't get hurt. It's a great way to desensitize a horses sensitive areas for grooming. Eventually she will come to understand you aren't there to hurt her.
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buggywhipp
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posted May 04, 2004 08:17 PM
bd....Thanks that's great advice. I have heard of people doing that but never thought of it but it makes a lot of sense. I will try that and see if it works. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Grandsgirl2003
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posted May 04, 2004 09:21 PM
I dont know what grandes deal is... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) hes just weriod! it might be because he was aboused and a "FAMOUS" Endurnce horse.
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Dawn
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posted May 05, 2004 09:22 AM
His deal is most likely that you let him get away with it.
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gingersnaps2002
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posted May 05, 2004 10:55 AM
Desensitize the ticklish areas by frequently rub those spots with like the end of a whip or something,so you are not in any danger of getting kicked.When the horse acts up I would just ignore it and when they stop acting like they are going to bite or kick,stop and pat them. Also,it helps if you start at a spot where they are not ticklish and slowly work your way down to the sensitive spot.Briefly touch that spot,then go away to a safe spot thats not tickly,then keep doing that.Be sure to spend time on each side of the body.
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buggywhipp
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posted May 06, 2004 07:16 AM
Ok this morning I put my mares halter and lead on and took the end of my longe whip and started rubbing her frome head to tail and spent extra time on her more sensitive areas. And guess what she did not even move. She did not bite or kick. So then I took a rag and rubbed her all over from head to tail. She did not kick at me. She did however try to bite me but not in a mean hateful way but more in a playful type of way. She really seemed to enjoy being rubbed with the rage. So I guess it's not her it's me. I need to learn more about how she likes to be groomed and with what types of brushes. Thanks everyone for all your advice. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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posted May 18, 2004 12:09 AM
my tb gelding cant stand me grooming him from his middle belly to his back either although he doesnt mind me doing ANYTHING else with him its weird to have so many tb the same.Guess they all are super tickly lol. ![[Horse On 2]](graemlins/horseon2.gif)
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