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Topic: grooming a dropping colt
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ToriQui
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posted April 22, 2004 07:02 PM
THis is a weird question. I have never ever owned a boy horse, let a lone a stud colt. We are excellent partners in crime and we have an awesome bond. He trust me a lot and I trust him a lot. He is only 11 months and I don't know when they drop or what to look for. I assume he has, but I don't feel any round things. I assume that he has because he keeps relaxing his you know what and he moves it around sometimes. Today, I was grooming him as I try to do everyday and he dropped his penis and left it there. Is this normal? he didn't mind that I almost hit a couple of times while grooming him. He was playing with his rope and almost falling asleep. Should I make him pick that thing up now or is this behavior something to simply except? I do want to show with him......so do I leave this a lone or ask him to be a little more modest?
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Posts: 85 | From: Farwell, Michigan | Registered: Apr 2004
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ToriQui
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posted April 22, 2004 07:03 PM
I should mention as well that he has a gelding date for May 10th. I guess I will know when the vet comes if he is ready.
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gingersnaps2002
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posted April 22, 2004 07:08 PM
Well, Spirit does that and he is about 15 months. they drop their penis when they are relaxed a lot of the times,even geldings do it. I wouldnt bother with it.It is normal.When he moves it,he is probably ************.
Posts: 387 | From: arkansas | Registered: Jul 2003
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1rish
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posted April 22, 2004 07:15 PM
If you are planning on showing him in halter or "model" class, the judges tend to frown on a horse that drops.
Take it as a compliment that he is so comfortable with you that he will fully relax. With my colts I set limitations from the beginning, one of which is that they behave themselves like gentlemen when being handled, this includes flashing anyone ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) . It just helps if you are consistant, they wont understand why you allow them to drop some times but require that they dont at others, I find it is just easier to say, "dont drop at all when being handled" then there is no confusion.
Just remember you are dealing with a VERY sensitive area, usually lightly tapping their tummy just in front of their sheath or having them repostion their stance will do the trick.
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Posts: 113 | From: Nevada | Registered: Mar 2004
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Grandsgirl2003
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posted April 23, 2004 10:30 AM
my gelding does it ALOT!!!!! but also hes proudcut. hehehehehe It is very sick to me though! EWWWWWWWW Scince im only 13!!!!
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probarrelracer
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posted April 23, 2004 10:48 AM
Some colts will not drop until well into their yearling year. It usually becomes a problem by the time they are 2. It is not often that they will drop after that. You should not geld him until you are sure that he has dropped, or sure that he is a chriptorchid(sp). It is costly to geld a cold that has not dropped because then, it involves surgery. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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probarrelracer
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posted April 23, 2004 10:50 AM
Oh, you should feel them when they drop. Also, "hanging out" is common in geldings and stallions. If you do not want him to do this, just tap him under his stomach in that general area as a cue to "put it away."
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Posts: 466 | From: Louisiana | Registered: Mar 2004
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Chris
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posted April 23, 2004 11:03 AM
Hi ToriQui! I assume that when you ask if those little "round things" have dropped you mean his testicles. My little boy's testicles were completely dropped when he was born. However, they didn't stay that way. You see, during the first couple of years their testicles will drop and then next time you check.... they're gone! The first time I scheduled my baby to be gelded (seven months) both his testicles were there only to have one gone the next day for the surgery! Thankfully they both decended and stayed that way so I could geld him. Dropping their penis and dropping their testicles are two different things. I'm not 100% sure, but I think one can be controled (dropping the penis) by them, when they're relaxed. And the other ( dropping their testicles) cannot be.
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Posts: 36 | From: Aliquippa, Pennsylvania | Registered: May 2003
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ColtysHeart
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posted April 23, 2004 12:14 PM
I held off on cutting Colty because he never dropped both testicles. I finally decided he was a monorcid, so I scheduled him for surgery. (Big Expense!). At his pre-surgery exam the vet sedated him in order to get a good feel of his "colthood". Low and behold - He was just shy!
The sedation relaxed him enough they both dropped down. Thirty minutes later it wasn't a problem anymore. I was thrilled, Colty was able to go home that day. If he had to have cryptorcid surgery he would have been there 7 days.
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Posts: 46 | From: Oklahoma | Registered: Mar 2004
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Idrivetrotters
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posted April 23, 2004 12:18 PM
I would be leary on gelding a weanling, I normally geld about 2 yo unless I have a horse that shows me he can do something. I raced a 10 yo horse (that is an entact male over age 4) and he was a perfect gentlemen if a little sulky at times ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
At 11 mos, he not be totally dropped yet, some boys drop earlier than others, some drop late. When you vet comes out he will let you know if its okay to go ahead and cut him.
Now for the penis dropping, that is a major no no even for a gelding. I do not allow my males to drop when I'm working around them, it is a sign of disrespect. A colt doesn't drop by Mom so why should he drop around me? I just tap them infront of the belly and if that doesn't encourage a retreat you tap a little harder and closer to the mark.
Posts: 479 | From: Florida | Registered: Jan 2004
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ToriQui
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posted April 29, 2004 07:13 PM
It is funny how so many people have different opinions on when to geld and what dropping the penis means. I have been told and read multiple material that says that the best prime time is 12-18 months to geld (when dropped). I am not taking my horse in, the vet is coming out and if he isn't dropped, then she will finish off his vaccines and reschedule.....no time wasted and no money lost. As for the dropping the penis thing, I have been told that it is a sign of relaxation, which makes since (he doesnt contract it or move it around). Both 2 yr old geldings and Spider do it and get a long well without any offensive behavior toward one another. Also, my reason for gelding him at 12 months is because I am going to be transporting him and he will be with a new horse that he has never seen, and she is a mare. I first, don't want to instigate any discomfort or bad habits......we have none at this moment. Second, I dont want any study behavior. He doesn't have a reason to act study right now and I want to keep it this way; therefor, I figured it was best to geld him prior a move to a new residence and before he is introduced to a mare. Has anyone ever had a colt that changed his behavior due to transportation and or a new residencey?
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Posts: 85 | From: Farwell, Michigan | Registered: Apr 2004
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Sandra-A1
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posted April 29, 2004 08:01 PM
We geld at around 6 months and have never had any problems with it, and have always been pleased with the results and the mature gelding grew up and filled out quiet nicely.
We feel the earlier it is done the better! Recovery time is quicker and you are able to get maxium growth out of the youngster.
The longest I have ever waitied to have a colt gelded was when the colt was a long yearling....and that was only because he was purchased for me at that age...I quickly had the vet out! It would have been nicer to have had it done sooner because I think the horse might have been a bit taller if he had been gelded months eariler!
I agree that your colt is just relaxing and enjoying the grooming.
If when handling a stallion he drops I just get him to moving and get his attention back on me. Usually young stallions have a bit of trouble controlling their hormones and keeping their attention on their handler or rider. All that usually necessary is to ask the youngster to do something like trotting forward (but away from what has his attention at that moment) or moving backwards when in hand or just get him working in circles and transitions when undersaddle is all it takes. If you get them to moving you will see them draw it back in as they do not care to have it flopping around!
As they mature you have less and less problems with this sort of thing if the colt is handled correctly and has a good foundation established. early.
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Posts: 1863 | From: Alabama | Registered: Aug 2003
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sunsetacres
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posted April 30, 2004 05:45 AM
If you really want to stop him from "relaxing" around you, just take that opportunity to decide it's a good time to clean it!! I guarantee he will stop offering it to you when grooming!! (usually about the time you wish he would drop so you could clean it!!! ) HEHEHEHE ![[Hah]](graemlins/hah.gif)
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Posts: 47 | From: Michigan | Registered: Apr 2004
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ToriQui
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posted May 01, 2004 07:39 AM
Thanks everyone! I don't mind it being there if he isn't trying to tell me something. As for the gelding date, I had to change my date because I can't feel or see any testes up there. My vet this morning said to wait until 2. I told him that I can't afford the big full out surgery to geld him. I dont' want to wait, but is it possible that he dropped and then decended? I am affraid that he will develope stud behavior.
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Tori Qui
Posts: 85 | From: Farwell, Michigan | Registered: Apr 2004
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