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Topic: Bare hoof trimming! HELP!!!
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Grandsgirl2003
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posted March 22, 2004 03:42 PM
HELP!!!! We just bought are first house!!! (YHYEA!!!) And we are very tight on money. Well its almost soon to trim my geldings feet.(HE DOSN'T WEAR SHOES HEHEHE) And i want to learn how to trim his feet. Any suggestions?? PLEASE!!!!! THANXZ!!! ![[Help!]](graemlins/help.gif) ![[Red Horse]](graemlins/redhorse.gif)
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lil nicky
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posted March 22, 2004 03:52 PM
OOhhhh! LOl. I remember I had this friend she was 14 I believe and she tried that too. Her poor horse couldnt walk for who know how long. And she did it too her friends horse. " Ferrier School" only takes 8 month but if your short on money than that in not an option. Sorry I'm not much help but I'll definatly keep checking back because my ferrier was over yesterday and only cut off so little they are still flairing out at the bottom!!!!! ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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JDauntlessS
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posted March 22, 2004 03:55 PM
My suggestion would be not to trim your own horses feet unless you have pro training or are taught by a pro. Plus all of the tools would easily cost 3 times as much as paying a farrier to do it. We get our trims (all 3 of our horses go barefoot too) for $25 dollars per horse. And with our old farrier it used to be $35 dollars, and these are both good farriers. Hope this helps.
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Grandsgirl2003
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posted March 22, 2004 03:55 PM
oh thank you anyways!! ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Why didn't he cut the hoof right?? Itz not sopposed to flair!!lol not like bellbottoms!
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belle4
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posted March 22, 2004 03:59 PM
Please don't attempt to trim your horses feet yourself. People go to school and apprentice for years until they are qualified to cut on a paying customers horse. A backyard horse owner is in no way qualified to trim their own horse. One little slip or one wrong cut could lame up your animal for life. Pay the money, it's only $20-30 bucks. If you can't afford to have your horses feet trimed, you have no business owning a horse.
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lil nicky
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posted March 22, 2004 04:08 PM
hmm I think that was a little harsh. There are times for everyone when they cannot affort something. But if you purchased a house and have a famiely the 20-30 $ really dont affect you that much. Of course it is nicer to save them. The tools, yes they are SO expensive. And the 8 month I was talking about that is only the classromm type stuff you do. than you have to spend I think 2 years with a cerified ferrier. It really doesnt look that hard when you watch it beeing done but than again neither does riding. Its not just get on and kick your horse; yank on the reins to stop. Anyway I have been rambling for a while. My point is that I wouldn't attempt because its not that easy and $ for the tools. Also If someone experianced could PM me I would like to show you a pic of my horses freshly cut hoofs and see if they are really too long. People have told me this before but I would like second opinions
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belle4
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posted March 22, 2004 04:15 PM
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But if you purchased a house and have a famiely the 20-30 $ really dont affect you that much. Of course it is nicer to save them.
This really didn't make sense to me. Did you mean horse and not house. It's nicer to save them? Save what?
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Grandsgirl2003
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posted March 22, 2004 06:52 PM
My dads friend was a farriere and he well hung him self on his horse(GOD REAST HIS SOUL WE MISS HIM!)And his wife gave me some of his tools. So i have the tools and wachted alot of trimmings! But i respect your guyses words!: )
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Idrivetrotters
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posted March 22, 2004 07:20 PM
I would not trim my own horses feet. I train standardbreds for racing, and as much as 1/8 of an inch can make a difference in how the horse moves. There is so much more to it than what it looks like. You need to know your angles, inches, and even level is not always level for a horse. Rasping off rough edges if fine, but not a full trim. Pay the money for a farrier, the old saying goes "Penny wise pound foolish" There are other ways of saving money on horses, never skimp on farrier and vets.
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horse_crazy
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posted March 23, 2004 03:22 PM
Okay,I know I am going to sound and get really rude in this post....so I appologize ahead of time!
Hmmm....you obviously have enough money to buy the horse, you have enough money to feed the horse, BUT you dont have enough money to pay a farrier to come out a trim your horses hooves? If you are that tight on money....that you cant or dont want to pay a professional farrier to trim your horses hooves.....do you have enough money for a vet bill? Why on earth, would someone buy a horse....when they cant take care of it!!! This is what really bothers me about people buying horses. Dont buy them if you cant afford to take care of them. Some people say....oh i love my horses....i go out and spend time with them everyday, and brush them. What do I say....really...do you have enough money to keep the horse in good conditions?(vet, farrier, ect.)
There are no and/if/ or buts about it....get a professionalt farrier out to trim your horses hooves, unless you plan on going to school and learning how to do it yourself. IF you do it yourself now... and you are unexperienced w/ it.....all you are going to do is mess up the horses hooves....and possibly make an injury occur.
Again, sorry if that sounded rude....thats just one of my pet peeves, that annoys the heck out of me. I hope that none of you on here are going to say...why are you so mad...or what ever else...that you say about some of the people on this forum, because I appologized for sounding too rude in the beginning and again here at the end.
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Honey-buckskin(in-foal to a smutty buckskin stallion)
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Dibby-dun(in-foal to a palomino stallion)
Star Bucks-buttermilk buckskin(not bred, we may just use her as a riding horse)
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Lizzy-grulla(will be used as a broodmare in the future, due to an injury as a weanling...we are unsure if she will be riding sound, although she might be, as her injury has healed so well...you can't even tell)
Sheba-black(hopefully will be shown in Halter classes starting this year)
Blue-blue roan(we aren't too sure what we are going to do with this filly yet....but she is a cutie)
Geldings:
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Brandy-*FOR SALE*(Nice 2 yr old, going into training soon, price will go up, feel free to ask me about him..if you are interested)
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Tinker Bell- Red dun filly. Nice short neck, long legs, beautiful eyes..absolutely beautiful. Very people friendly.
Other 2 foals are expecting between May and June.
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spyro1
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posted March 23, 2004 03:59 PM
Grandsgirl, I wouldn't attempt to trim my horses feet, you know the old saying, "No hoof, No horse", well, it is all too true. Farriers go to school to learn how to do whtat they do, not just watch trimmings being done. I have all the tools you could imagine to work on a car engine, have seen it done a million times, but that doesn't mean that I can do it. ![[Wink]](wink.gif) There are a thousand ways to take shortcuts to saving the $25.00, (been there done that)foreget eating out that night, leave the extra shorts, jeans, etc, buy generic brands instead of brand names, skip the movie you have been wanting to see, buy the 20 pound bag of dog food instead of the 50lb, Take the shortcuts with the budget, not the hoof job!
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lil nicky
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posted March 23, 2004 05:00 PM
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But if you purchased a house and have a famiely the 20-30 $ really dont affect you that much. Of course it is nicer to save them.
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Sorry if that didnt make sense what I mean is. If you buy a house for say 250,000, the minimum morgage you would owe at the end of EVER month is 1,500. The ferrier only costs $ 20.00 every 1.5 month. This is cheaper than paying for your kid to take piano lessons.
However I think I would have to almost disagree with Horse_Crazy. Here are my reasons. Hope I don't offend anyone.
1) There are people who can spend 20,000 on a horse and own a whole herd. They can get their hoofs trimed every 4 weeks and keep them in expensive stables and have expensive rugs, body clip them, and have exensive tack.
2) Than there are people who cannot. Like me, I paid 1,500 for my horse. I saved her from 7 houres of trailwork everyday ( in 35* C) malnutrition, I could see everysingle muscle in her neck move. And not have any human or horse company ( she was picked on by horses and riDden by unexperianced riders everyday.)I cannot affort expensiv things. I have a saddle worth 300 and 2 usedf bridles new, 150 each. I have one ugly blanket and not even a riding ring. However each month I pick up a few extra shifts that cover the ferrier and vet. When my horse is limping I dont call the vet right away but to other experianced people. Not once, anything bad happened to her or I didnt look after her. I dont fed rotten hay because that what some people on here like to believe (please read the post again for clarifiacation if unclear) Anyway my point is you can be short on money with your horse but it is better than horses going to be slaughtered because someone is afrait they may be short 20 bucks once in their life time
3) We have to give credit for this person asking. We right away ( even me )assumed that she has NO clue and tools or anything when really she is alot more experianced than we thought. I still dont htink this is a good idea but I'm sure she knows alot of things that we dont know and one day she will answer your question and I hope that she will do this alot nicer than many of us would.
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Grandsgirl2003
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posted March 23, 2004 05:27 PM
lil nicky I totaly agree!! ONE THING!!!!!! I THOUGHT TRIMMING MY HORSES FEET WOULD BE FUN AND GREAT BONDING TIME!! HELLO,I'M ONLY 14!!!!!! lol Well IT's NOT THAT CAN'T Afford it,Its i'd rather do it my self! I think it would be a great experiance for me!
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lil nicky
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posted March 23, 2004 05:29 PM
Well I'm glad you agree!!!!! I finally got a point throught that another person agrees with!!!! YAY!!!
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horse_crazy
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posted March 23, 2004 05:51 PM
Yeah, I dont think that a 14 yr old is qualified enought to trim horses hooves, doesnt mean that there arent 14 yr olds out there they dont or cant....but its not very common. Its much safer for your horse to have a professional farrier trim your horses hooves. Maybe once you are older...you can learn to trim hooves...and do it yourself. Dont worry, I dont think that trimming hooves is all that fun, you really have to have a strong back...(all that bending over). But it has to be done, and thats why they have schools for that, so people cna learn how to do it correctly. Good luck, and again...sorry if I came off too rude towards you(or anyone else...I was stating my opinion)
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Honey-buckskin(in-foal to a smutty buckskin stallion)
BG-palomino/dunalino(foaled a beautiful filly)
Dibby-dun(in-foal to a palomino stallion)
Star Bucks-buttermilk buckskin(not bred, we may just use her as a riding horse)
Fillies:
Lizzy-grulla(will be used as a broodmare in the future, due to an injury as a weanling...we are unsure if she will be riding sound, although she might be, as her injury has healed so well...you can't even tell)
Sheba-black(hopefully will be shown in Halter classes starting this year)
Blue-blue roan(we aren't too sure what we are going to do with this filly yet....but she is a cutie)
Geldings:
Poco-sorrel/overo*Paint*(Awesome riding horse!)
Brandy-*FOR SALE*(Nice 2 yr old, going into training soon, price will go up, feel free to ask me about him..if you are interested)
Foals:
Tinker Bell- Red dun filly. Nice short neck, long legs, beautiful eyes..absolutely beautiful. Very people friendly.
Other 2 foals are expecting between May and June.
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posted March 25, 2004 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by Grandsgirl2003:
I THOUGHT TRIMMING MY HORSES FEET WOULD BE FUN AND GREAT BONDING TIME!!
If you want to have some fun bonding with your horse - try some round pen work.
Messing with trimming your horses feet is quite dangerous. Farrier work is a SCIENCE in itself. You trim that horses foot incorrectly, and you will be doing SERIOUS damage to the foot and possibly tendons. Think about it. Get the horse standing incorrectly, say bye-bye to tendons. One wrong cut can take months to grow out. You have no business trimming your horses feet.
It could be a great experience for you? Think about your horse first. His feet are EVERYTHING. Risking laming your horse b/c you'd 'rather do it yourself' is, frankly, horrendous. Believe me hon, if your farrier made it look easy - it's because he's a PRO.
Don't do it.
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posted March 25, 2004 04:56 AM
Have to agree with MB, there is a science to trimming, you have to know how to pare out the sole, you have to know how to trim the frog, you have to know at what angle to hold the nippers, do you trim below or above or at the white line, you have to angles of the hoof perfectly even, one fraction of a centimeter off, and you are asking for trouble. You have to know how much to take off when dressing the outside of the hoof. IMO, at 14, no one is qualified to be trimming their horses hooves, you don't have enough experience behind you to do this. What are you going to do when you run into probs down the road because, beleive me, you will. I agree wtih MB, there are plenty of other ways to *bond* and spend time with your horse besides fiddling with his hooves and your pair of nippers.
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posted March 25, 2004 06:25 AM
You can do whatever you put your mind too. HOWEVER, a horses hoof is very complex, one slip of the hoof knife or the nippers and that could be it for the horse.Then money will really be an issue. My best advice is to have your farrier come out. If you are interested in learning more, there are credited places that teach this. I know you are young, you can ask your farrier if he needs an apprentice. Maybe he will teach you. In college I took a course on Farrier Science and worked with a farrier. I did well in the class, but I still don't want to risk it. Yeah sure, I can rasp an edge off, pull a shoe etc. I can do small maintanence things until my farrier can come out. GOOD LUCK! I applaude the fact that you want to do more with your horses and you want to learn!
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posted March 25, 2004 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by MissBandit:
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Originally posted by Grandsgirl2003:
I THOUGHT TRIMMING MY HORSES FEET WOULD BE FUN AND GREAT BONDING TIME!!
If you want to have some fun bonding with your horse - try some round pen work.
Messing with trimming your horses feet is quite dangerous. Farrier work is a SCIENCE in itself. You trim that horses foot incorrectly, and you will be doing SERIOUS damage to the foot and possibly tendons. Think about it. Get the horse standing incorrectly, say bye-bye to tendons. One wrong cut can take months to grow out. You have no business trimming your horses feet.
It could be a great experience for you? Think about your horse first. His feet are EVERYTHING. Risking laming your horse b/c you'd 'rather do it yourself' is, frankly, horrendous. Believe me hon, if your farrier made it look easy - it's because he's a PRO.
Don't do it.
I seriously must agree. A trim for a barefoot horse runs from about $20-$30. Its not that expensive and it only needs to be done every 6-8 weeks.
You can literally cripple your horse if you mess up his feet! Then he will be totally useless to you and the $20 you could have spend on a shoeing will turn into $100's of dollars in vet bills.
People who know what they are doing make things look easy. It doesnt mean that they are. At 14 you dont need the "experience" of trimming your horses feet when you really have no clue how.
As Miss Bandit said...you want some bonding time go riding or take your horse out grazing. Dont mess with his feet.
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Super_Trooper
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posted March 25, 2004 09:52 AM
Go to www.oldmacsusa.com and go to the "Resources" link and you can down load Old Mac's Trimming Manual for FREE, it is a GREAT barefoot trim, check it out!
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MissBandit
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posted March 25, 2004 01:34 PM
I can't believe you are encouraging that.
[ March 25, 2004, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: MissBandit ]
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...you yell at the kids, and the horse's name pops out.
...you actually get to a point where flies don't bother you so much.
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Super_Trooper
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posted March 26, 2004 09:38 AM
You cant believe that I am encouraging that? Explain that MissBandit?? That trim is an excellent healthy trim, tons of TOP level farriers around the world helped to come up with that trim....it is extremely healthy and good.
Explain??????????
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Super_Trooper
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posted March 26, 2004 09:41 AM
That hoof is beautiful......
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posted March 26, 2004 09:49 AM
I think she was referring that you're encouraging a child to trim her horses hoof on the pretense that it will be a good bonding experience. Or did you not read the entire thread? Because personally, I felt the same way as what she said, I just didn't say it.
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Super_Trooper
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posted March 26, 2004 09:57 AM
I never once said that I would encourage a child to trim her own horses feet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I repsonded to her post to how to trim a horses feet,and that would be the trim I WOULD reccomend. Obvioulsy that trim would need to be done by a professional trimmer.....
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