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Author Topic: Encourage Tail and Mane growth - bagging Paintlover Member Member # 929 posted November 17, 2003 11:53 AM         I remember reading somewhere on this site about encouraging a mane and tail to grow. My horse's mane and tail tend to be thin and scraggly. She is on straight alfalfa (still looking for grass hay...) and she drinks about 12gal/day and is exercised. Does anyone have advice on encouraging her hair to grow? I read some where that you can braid and bag the tail and then wrap a saturated cloth around it and add more oil/conditioner when it gets dry. Anyone ever heard of this? What kind of conditioner should I use? Isn't it bad to block out the air like it would? Thanks for any comments/advice. M. -------------------- On the seventh day, god created horses. On the eigth, he painted them. Posts: 312 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Nov 2003 Blistering Winds Member Member # 843 posted November 17, 2003 12:44 PM         The tail bag idea works pretty good. The added weight from the bag (or even just a braid) helps pull and stimulate the hair follicles to grow. Don't leave the hair bound up for more than 2 weeks though, then you get some serious split ends. Take it out for a day or two, then bound it up again. -------------------- Horses should not be treated as people. They should be respected for who they are and what they are capable of doing! Born Free Now Expensive Posts: 4337 | From: Texas | Registered: Oct 2003 Sandra-A1 Member Member # 588 posted November 17, 2003 02:29 PM         Really all you can do is protect the hair as much as possible to see if it will grow. You can try feeding a skin and coat supplement that has a lot of polyunsaturated fatty acids. It can help some. I have had great luck with Farnam's Super 14 but there are lots of others on the market with the polyunsaturated fatty acids in them as well. As for the protecting the hair I would try braiding and wrapping or bagging the braids. I would just put a bit of hair oil or leave in conditioner on the mane & tail BEFORE bagging. Always braid and bag or wrap DRY Hair, NEVER wet. I would also not wrap them with something that is wet as things will start to smell sour and yes you will get MOLD growing in the hair! I use vetwrap or a generic version of Vetwrap to wrap the tail braid and protect it. I also use a tail bag on a horse that is easy on them and while they are not hard to make I keep an eye out for sales and buy the wrap and bags when I see priced really low. There is a website with mane bags they make and sell online. They tell you how to use them on it. Just do a search for Mane Bags...I think the place is called Toadstool Farm Mane Bags or something like that. [ November 17, 2003, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: Sandra-A1 ] -------------------- "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -Dumbledore Posts: 1863 | From: Alabama | Registered: Aug 2003 Blistering Winds Member Member # 843 posted November 17, 2003 02:42 PM         they have MANE BAGS??? I need one!!!!! I've seen sleezies, but mine hates them....I keep finding them UNDER the dirt. He hates them so much he buries them!! -------------------- Horses should not be treated as people. They should be respected for who they are and what they are capable of doing! Born Free Now Expensive Posts: 4337 | From: Texas | Registered: Oct 2003 Wolfie Member Member # 933 posted November 22, 2003 06:35 PM         Yes! Bagging is a great way to make manes longer and silkier. I've tried it on my Andalusians and have had great reasults! Toadstool farm also sells and uses mane bags and well, their reasults are even better! Heres the link: http://www.toadstoolfarm.com/index2.html -------------------- You can tell a gelding, ask a mare, but you must discuss it with a stallion ~Anonymous Posts: 38 | From: Illinois | Registered: Nov 2003 Paintlover Member Member # 929 posted November 23, 2003 05:59 AM         These look really easy to make. Does anyone know if they are made out of any special kind of material? I think I'll make some today. Right now she just has 3 french braids down her neck. I'm going to wrap them in something so they don't get all gross. M. -------------------- On the seventh day, god created horses. On the eigth, he painted them. Posts: 312 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Nov 2003 CANDYGIRL Member Member # 719 posted November 23, 2003 06:27 AM         I make rugs,well anything that is horsey. I don't know what they are made of, had a look at my post, encouragin mane to grow, and they look like some sort of mesh bags, like the material I use to make summer rugs for horses with sweet itch. It's nylon, beathable, but keeps the midges out, so I would say a bit like mosquito netting, just an idea. I would make them like little lavender bags, they look like they are tied on, so you would need to use some kind of material that will allow you to tie them quite tight, so it would have to be quite soft. Hope this helps. Maybe someone who has them would post. I have saved people a fortune doing the rugs and things, including Fancy Browbands, button holes and bows for show ponies and their riders, which companies like Pretty Ponies charge a fortune for. -------------------- NO FOOT NO HORSE Proud owner of Hollybush Picollo Posts: 2620 | From: England | Registered: Sep 2003 CANDYGIRL Member Member # 719 posted November 23, 2003 07:40 AM         Can you see that gap, where he has had his head through the post and rail. I shall run a strand of elec fencing next year, that will stop him Grrr -------------------- NO FOOT NO HORSE Proud owner of Hollybush Picollo Posts: 2620 | From: England | Registered: Sep 2003 Dawn Member Member # 14 posted November 23, 2003 08:55 AM         You probably wouldn't want to make them out of cotton. It'll suck the moisture out of the hair. Satin or silk would be good moisture wise, but not sure how that'd hold up. -------------------- Heard in the midst of a handwriting exam ~ "And to think, we could've been bio-chem majors." Posts: 6885 | From: Tennessee | Registered: Nov 2002 CANDYGIRL Member Member # 719 posted November 23, 2003 11:33 AM         The material that I recommended to try is the nylon mosquito netting, it's what I use for the midge net rugs for ponies prone to sweet itch. One thing I did read was about the weight thing not sure what they use to weight them down with. The cotton thing was just for tying them tight with, like a lavender bag, maybe ribbon?. I am gonna have a go myself, see if it works. Jane -------------------- NO FOOT NO HORSE Proud owner of Hollybush Picollo Posts: 2620 | From: England | Registered: Sep 2003 H/J Princess Member Member # 922 posted November 24, 2003 07:30 PM         I love bagging my horse's tails also, and what worked best for me was to make my own out of polar fleece. It stays soft and breathes, and they're easy to make. I pick up material from WalMart, and because of this new found passion I have with sewing everyone in my stable wants one...I've had lycra bags before, but in my experience they haven't worked as well... -------------------- My precious Delta...you'll never be forgotten. Posts: 277 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Oct 2003 CANDYGIRL Member Member # 719 posted November 25, 2003 04:35 AM         H/J I started off making things for myself, now have a nice little earner going, 8 years on. Make made to measure rugs, saddle covers, anything and everything. Invested in an industrial sewing machine, do rug repairs, anything. You could also have a nice little earner going. Well done. -------------------- NO FOOT NO HORSE Proud owner of Hollybush Picollo Posts: 2620 | From: England | Registered: Sep 2003 Paintlover Member Member # 929 posted December 03, 2003 06:37 PM         I have been putting detangler in (Mane & Tail - is it silicone based anybody?) but now the tail bag doesn't stay in, grrr! Any ideas? Should I just leave it hang? M -------------------- On the seventh day, god created horses. On the eigth, he painted them. Posts: 312 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Nov 2003 spyro1 Member Member # 647 posted December 07, 2003 04:03 PM         Picture of Spy's tail down. Instead of using a tail bag, try a tube sock (bag of 12 at wal mart for 6 bucks) cut a slit at the top and wah lah, there you go. I tried the fancy lycra tail bags, the nylon ones, none of them would stay in. The tube socks are perfect. Turn it inside out, stick your hand in it, grab the bottom of the braided tail and while holding it, turn the sock right side out. Tie the top slits in a knot around a section of the braid and off you go:) [ December 07, 2003, 04:06 PM: Message edited by: spyro1 ] -------------------- http://members17.clubphoto.com/beth819817/2122088/guest.phtml Only those who risk going too far, will ever know how far they can go. Posts: 2755 | From: Sunny South Florida | Registered: Aug 2003 witzee Member Member # 471 posted December 07, 2003 04:22 PM         Pretty! -------------------- maybe things happen for a reason and wherein lies the anser to overcome the greivings of lifes unruly lessons iv handed in succesion it builds my pain which makes me strong Posts: 211 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Jul 2003 witzee Member Member # 471 posted December 07, 2003 04:23 PM         Pretty! what do you feed him? -------------------- maybe things happen for a reason and wherein lies the anser to overcome the greivings of lifes unruly lessons iv handed in succesion it builds my pain which makes me strong Posts: 211 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Jul 2003 spyro1 Member Member # 647 posted December 07, 2003 05:07 PM         Thanks, he is on 10% pellet and T&A and Source supplement. -------------------- http://members17.clubphoto.com/beth819817/2122088/guest.phtml Only those who risk going too far, will ever know how far they can go. Posts: 2755 | From: Sunny South Florida | Registered: Aug 2003 Paintlover Member Member # 929 posted December 09, 2003 06:42 PM         Is Source your favorite supplement and have you used others? Just wondering. M. -------------------- On the seventh day, god created horses. On the eigth, he painted them. Posts: 312 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Nov 2003 spyro1 Member Member # 647 posted December 10, 2003 05:24 AM         I do like Source for Spy, Katie is on it as well, I have tried Nu Image, but I think that Source is a more rounded supplement than Nu Image, which is marketed for coat conditioning. Source is for the overall health of the horse, but I will tell you that being a chestnut, he has some killer dapples, (a sign that he is getting the proper vitamins and nutrients) -------------------- http://members17.clubphoto.com/beth819817/2122088/guest.phtml Only those who risk going too far, will ever know how far they can go. Posts: 2755 | From: Sunny South Florida | Registered: Aug 2003 The Flying Moose Member Member # 1216 posted December 23, 2003 10:41 AM         To wrap the tail, do you just braid it nromally or the hunter braid? And then do you wrap vetrap all the way down? Does anyone have a website for this wrapping tails? -------------------- Its not easy being a moose Posts: 235 | Registered: Dec 2003 weezie Junior Member Member # 1233 posted December 26, 2003 11:40 PM         try wetting the tail aeery day if possible and spraying baby oil in it once a week. i did this to my australian stock horse geling after his tail got eaten by foals now he has a long thick healthy and shiney tail Posts: 3 | Registered: Dec 2003 Sandra-A1 Member Member # 588 posted December 27, 2003 11:22 AM         Moose, you just start the braid at the bottom of the tail bone. It is just the basic 3 plait braid. YOu can tape or rubber band the braid to keep it in. Also you do not have to go all the way to the end... I just go down to about 6 inches from the bottom and then put a rubber band on it. You can then place the finished braid in a tail sack. Or... if your going to wrap it in vet wrap you then loop the completed braid back thru itself a couple of times (to shorten it up so there is less length to wrap) then wrap the braid (only the braid not any part of the tail bone) up with the vet wrap. If you take the vet wrap and run it thru a section of the braid at the top once or twice when wrapping then the wrap will stay on and not slip off. It makes it a pain to get off when you do though... -------------------- "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -Dumbledore Posts: 1863 | From: Alabama | Registered: Aug 2003 Paintlover Member Member # 929 posted December 29, 2003 01:17 PM         Will the vetwrap suffocate the hair?--or won't it matter? M. -------------------- On the seventh day, god created horses. On the eigth, he painted them. Posts: 312 | From: Minnesota | Registered: Nov 2003 RodeoJo Member Member # 1294 posted January 07, 2004 07:53 PM         I vetwrap tails, with a little twine in the end for fly batting in the summer, and Dunny who used to have no tail has a tail to the ground!! I take them off once a month and redo them. I do his mane sometimes too. I take a pair of pantyhose cut the leg off and do a running braid with it(horsey mane french braid). Like a draft horse mane. It works well, Dunny's mane is below his neck!! -------------------- If you're not makin'dust you're eatin'it! Ride em'hard! Posts: 35 | From: SK | Registered: Jan 2004 space_cowboy Member Member # 1308 posted January 08, 2004 07:44 AM         Just rememeber to be careful when un braiding!! The hairs can break off - and I would wash the tail as often as possible to keep it from getting to dry/dirty. I used to work at a morgan barn and we braided and bagged there - we washed the tails about once a week in the summer. -------------------- Horses are my life, and I couldn't imagine my life without them....... http://community.webshots.com/user/silver_spur Posts: 383 | From: houston | Registered: Jan 2004

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